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JG
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:53 am    Post subject: WAC coverall Reply with quote

Hi everyone

I've started to collect some uniforms of the WAC recently and I also want a coverall. On this topic I have a couple of questions.

Did the WAC's were a mens HBT coverall or did they also were a womens HBT coverall? Or was the womens HBT coverall only for the women of the ANC?

Did the women of the WAC were a garrison cap with the coverall or only a Daisy Mae hat?
Did they were some insignia on the collar of the coverall?

Did women also paint a cartoon on the back of the coveralls or was only done by men?

Greetings Julie
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Julie,

Both WACs and ANC had their own designs of HBT coveralls.

WAC:


ANC:


(Coveralls in pictures are just some reproductions).

However, all women wore men's uniforms when they didn't have access to female ones. So, it was very common to see WACs and Nurses wearing men's coveralls (both models):

1938 with two pockets:


1943 with one pocket:


Since coveralls were destined for field work, I think they would wear it with either a daisy mae hat, or a jeep cap, a helmet, or a bandana.
But maybe some of the girls here have some pictures of WACs wearing garrison caps?

When it comes to insignia, it would be disc-mounted Pallas Athene (left) and disc-mounted US Insignia (right) for enlisted personnel.

Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of cartoons painted on the back Sad

Hope it helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Emi.

It's already a lot of usefull information.

Can you also tell me which insignia were worn by the ANC-women on the coverall? And do you know if they were a garrison cap or only a Daisy Mae had?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jill,

The garrison cap could be worn as part of the field clothing, but it was rarely done in combination with HBT uniforms. This photograph shows army nurses wearing HBT uniforms with garrison caps and collar insignia (rank insignia right side, ANC caduceus left side). But as you see most nurses wear no headgear at all. Furthermore, I agree with Emi that HBT caps, the wool knit cap or helmet/helmet liner were more common with HBTs.



Metal insignia were rarely worn on HBT clothing by enlisted women. For the WAAC/WAC, I can only remember one single picture showing the WAAC one-piece HBT coverall with the enlisted disc insignia on the collar.




Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:36 am    Post subject: WAC Coveralls Reply with quote

Thank you for these pictures of the WAC coveralls. They are great pictures.

I have a question regarding the coveralls. Did any of them have a button seat in the rear? From the pictures I have seen, there were no buttons across the bottom of the seat. I saw a WAC coverall posted on another forum that has three buttons but I don't think it is military.

Are there any distinguishing characteristics such as a label to know that the coveralls are true WAC coveralls?

Thank you for your assistance....Kat
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kat,

Is this what you had in mind?







ANC coveralls have three buttons in the rear.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:02 pm    Post subject: WAC coveralls Reply with quote

Emi,

Thank you so very much! That is exactly what I was looking for! I really appreciate your help.

...Kat
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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everyone!
Thank you all for this informations, they're really helpful to me. However, I've got some questions too. I hope that you don't mind that I didn't came up with another topic about coveralls, but I simply thought that it could be easier for others to find some photos and informations in one topic instead of two.

Can I wear a M-1936 belt with ANC coverall?
Did coveralls were still common in the end of the war?

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Marie,

Yes, you can wear the M-1936 belt with the ANC coveralls. By the end of the war, it would be more probable to wear the two-piece HBT special suit instead of coveralls.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much Smile
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've still a question following the other questions I already ask in this post.

I've recently bought a replica of an ANC coverall, but I want to put the right insignia on the collar of it. Can sombody tell me which pins I should take to be right? (fot a regular nurse and for an officer)

Thank you in advance.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi JG,

Nurses served in the Army Nurse Corps and were always officers.

People often mix up the Army Nurse Corps with the WAAC/WAC (something I also did in the beginning). But these were two different organizations and only the latter had enlisted women.

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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Katy.
Didn't know that yet.

Can you tell me which insignia I can put an my ANC coverall (on the collar)?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

The ANC collar insignia (caduceus with superimposed "N") is pinned to the left side of the collar, the rank insignia (lieutenant bar or whatever rank you chose) on the right side.

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